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170 – Cyclone Separator Shootout

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Why a Cyclone Separator

A cyclone separator is essentially a bucket with a fancy lid. When connected to a vacuum source, the lid creates a cyclonic suction that collects large dust particles minimally, and the small dust particles at best. By adding one of these to a standard shop vac or dust extractor, you can collect much of the dust before it ever reaches your vac’s filter. So why would you want to do this? One reason is safety. Many times, a filter will get clogged with both large and small dust particles, eventually clogging up the system. This could lead to dust leaking through the system and being expelled back into the shop air. By removing the large particles and even some of the smaller particles, your vac filters don’t have to work as hard and are less likely to become clogged. At the very least, it will take a lot longer for a clog to occur.

The second reason is to save money. I never run my shop vac or dust extractors without a filter bag. Disposable filter bags wind up costing me a lot of money over time. By separating out the chips and dust BEFORE the vac, I can simply empty the bucket over and over and the fill rate on the disposable bags drops dramatically.

I’ll be reviewing the following cyclone separators: The Oneida Dust Deputy, The ClearVue Mini-CV06, and Rockler’s Dust Right Vortex.

Price

Oneida Dust Deputy Deluxe – $79
ClearVueMini CV06 – $149
Rockler Dust Right Vortex – $89

The ClearVue CV06 comes in at the highest price point of all three of these units at $149. The Dust Right Vortex is $89 but can often be found on sale for $69. The Dust Deputy Deluxe kit retails for $79. Oneida also carries other kits costing as much as $199 for the Ultimate model and as little as $39 for the DIY standalone cyclone body.

Winner: Dust Deputy

Connectivity

One of the greatest frustrations in dust collection is dealing with various port and hoses sizes. Fortunately, all three kits come with their own short length of hose for connecting the cyclone to the dust extractor. I had no trouble connecting all three units to both my Festool CT33 and my Rigid Shop Vac. The port for the tool connection was a bit of a different story. I had three hoses to test: my large Festool boom arm hose, my 36 mm Festool hose, and my standard Rigid shop vac hose.

Mini CV06 – All hoses connected with no problem.
Dust Right Vortex – All hoses connected with no problem.
Dust Deputy Deluxe – The large Festool boom arm hose and the Rigid shop vac hose both connected with no trouble. But I was not able to securely connect my 36 mm Festool hose. The diameter of the hose port would have worked just fine, but this particular one does not allow the Dust Deputy’s port to penetrate far enough for the friction fit to engage.

Winners: Dust Right Vortex & ClearVue Mini CV06

Portability

The one major drawback of a cyclone separator is that you now have one more thing to lug around the shop. Since it is essentially tethered to your vacuum source, the whole setup and be quite a pain in the neck. Many folks make custom carts specifically for this purpose. But the manufacturers of these units didn’t leave us hanging.

Dust Deputy – Includes casters for rolling around as well as an attachment kit for mounting to a dust extractor.
Mini CV06 – Does not come with casters but does come with an attachment kit for mounting to a dust extractor.
Dust Right Vortex – Includes easy to attach casters but does not include a mounting kit.

Winner: Dust Deputy

Build Quality

All of these units are plastic. Nothing really fancy about them, but there are some minor differences to consider.

Dust Right Vortex – Sturdy thick plastic with a twist-on lid. Only thing I don’t like about it is the crappy rigid plastic hose. This is the type of hose that will either kink or crack if stepped on. Since it also holds its shape, it will decrease mobility somewhat.

Mini CV06 – Initially seemed to have the highest build quality. The plastic cyclone was made from thicker plastic and the lower profile offers less of a chance of tipping. The lid is fantastic on this unit as it twists and threads onto the bucket. Once the threads are engaged, you have to pull a small lever to twist it back off. The kit included a high quality flexible connector hose too. Unfortunately, these positive aspects were overshadowed by the fact that the bucket collapsed under pressure. While this could be circumstantial or pure bad luck, it happened.

Dust Deputy – There really isn’t anything remarkable about the build quality. At the same time, there isn’t anything overly negative. The kit comes with nice flexible hose equal in quality to the Mini CV06. My one complaint about the Dust Deputy is the lid. The simple pop-on pop-off lid is very likely to detach at a very inconvenient time. But if one were to adopt the policy of never picking the unit up by the cyclone, this should never be an issue.

Winners: Dust Right Vortex & Dust Deputy

Performance

The performance test was very simple. I sanded a soft maple board with 80 grit paper for 5 minutes straight. I then made three cuts at the sliding compound miter saw. I figured this would be a decent mix of small and large dust. The sandpaper was changed between each test and I did my best to keep even pressure on the sander.

Dust Right Vortex – A moderate to heavy amount of fine dust found its way into the dust vac compartment.
Mini CV06 – A moderate amount of fine dust found its way into the dust vac compartment.
Dust Deputy – A minimal amount of dust found its way into the dust vac compartment.

Winner: Dust Deputy

Summary

To say I was surprised by these results would be an understatement. It isn’t often that the cheapest option in a tool test is also the best option. Both the Mini CV06 and the Dust Right Vortex will get the job done, but the combination of price, overall quality, and performance of the Dust Deputy make it the clear winner here.


Overall Winner: Oneida Dust Deputy

Category: Reviews

Comments

  1. Danny H. May 13, 2012

    Oh I forgot to mention that I made a bracket to mount my Dust Deputy above my shop vac ,thus reducing it’s footprint. I also used black ABS pipe from the vac to the Deputy, instead of corrugated air hose, so as to help maintain airflow. I believe I posted a picture on the Fine Woodworking Knots site, although it may not be there any longer.

  2. Don Burch May 12, 2012

    Nice to see at least some type of review on these devices. I am a ClearVue guy. I have one of the first generation mini CV06. Mine is stuck to the lid of a 20 liter plastic wine bucket. I have never experienced significant dust in my shop vac canister. I have read to many stories of the downside of having the waste bin overflow, so I don’t let the pail get even half full.
    It is to bad the unit you were given to test had such a poor waste container. A lot of people underestimate the vacuum developed in shop vac. Bolting a baby cyclone to a metal garbage can will always ensure a collapsed metal can.
    Any amount of leakage will undermine any cyclone’s performance. Based the amount of dust you generated, you have way to much carry over in the first two photos to think that a good seal was in place for either separator. This is certainly something to consider as the unit as a whole is only as good as its weakest link.
    While the Mini CV was unavailable I often encouraged people to get the Dust Deputy, so glad to see it come up with good results.

    Regards,
    Don Burch

  3. William Swick May 12, 2012

    Thanks Marc I will take your suggestion and use filter back,I’m thinking about buying a Dust Deputy. William Swick

  4. Dave From oz May 12, 2012

    Thanks Marc. I have two dust deputy’s inline and love them. I a cabinet on casters to house my shop vac and a twelve litre paint tin with an expanding clamp on the lid. There is a dd bolted to the lid of the paint tin. On the side of the cabinet is a cradle that supports another dd but this one is on a Triton dust bucket with another paint tin lid and expanding clamp. I made a boom arm out of two inch pvc pipe with a Bosch airsweep hose. I love it.

  5. Tom Collins May 12, 2012

    Fantastic review! You should do more of these. Your practical approach covered all the bases and answered all my questions. We don’t need all the scientific stuff, we just need to know how much dust will end up in the vacuum. The review was informative, interesting, and worth my time to watch. Thank you.

  6. Danny H. May 11, 2012

    Have had the Dust deputy on my shop vac for several years now and can verify that it still works wonderfully well, with almost no dust reaching my goreteck filter. Bought another one for my other shop vac as well. The top of my first Dust Deputy did also separate and came off , but I was able to fix it quite successfully using Roo Clear glue. Haven’t had a problem since.

  7. Great review Marc! I also have a dust deputy that I put onto a BORG bucket which snaps on and is really quite the pain to detach, but it really is awesome. You just validated my purchase lol.

    I did have one problem and that was with the top of the cyclone where it meets the funnel. I accidentally knocked it over and the top separated from the funnel. No matter. A little epoxy and it was as good as new!

    2 thumbs up to Oneida :)

  8. William Swick May 11, 2012

    Marc in the last four years i have went through four motors on my shop vac.I use my shop-vac on all working tools. In your option will the cyclone save my motors.I enjoy your shoot out the dust cyclone good information. Keep them coming.

    Thank you. watch all your video

    •  

      Thanks William. The only thing that will likely save your motors is using a disposable filter bag. I believe a good cyclone separator will help a lot, but its the finest dust that is the real problem, and some of that will always get through the cyclone. So if you use filter back, you should be in good shape and you motor should last a long time.

  9. Trevor Hillman May 11, 2012

    Thanks for the review, I recently purchased the vortex after the review done by fine woodworking. I have been impressed with it until yesterday, after all ay in the shop with respirator on and the shop vac with vortex on, I was still coughing up dust. I think it was the series of smaller cuts being made. Have you done a review of the dust collectors?

    •  

      I haven’t done any reviews of dust collectors. I doubt I will either due to the variety and size of the machines. It just isn’t practical for me on that scale.

      • Charlie Lenz October 11, 2012

        I think that a Phil Thien Separator should have been thrown in the mix as another option for those who want to build their own Separator. I think that he deserves some credit. As far as you doing a dust collector shootout, I have a Delta 50-760 portable 1 1/2 hp Dust Collector with an onboard Separator.In my opinion it’s the best bang for the buck in a portable 2 stage DC.

  10. You don’t need to build a fancy cart to carry the dust separator along with the shop vac. Here is my “el cheapo” dust collector, based on Oneida’s dust deputy. It works great! http://www.julienlecomte.net/blog/2012/05/685/

  11. TennesseeYankee May 7, 2012

    I love my Dust Deputy.

    Don’t do wood working without it.

  12. Dr. Hacker May 7, 2012

    Phew.

    glad to see these results. I actually for space reasons and for having HEPA filtration use 2 festool vaccumes connected to 2 in line dust deputies. The first gest all teh big stuff, the second is all the small and the HEPA lets me use my stuff in the house. I would have to say that over the past year I have been happy with the deputy. AND!!! (no help for me) the festool version of the deputy is now cheaper but still worth it. That black container is strong

  13. Frank, have you tried just making a boom arm to support the vacuum hose? I use standard shop vac hoses and have no problem when I use a boom. Btw, my boom arm is just a rope from the ceiling tied around the vac hose. Simple and it works.

  14. Frank May 6, 2012

    I commented on youtube and got a reply from Marc, but after reading each comment here and seeing the two pictures of people’s carts they built, here is my question for whoever can answer me: where can I buy a flexible and lightweight shop vac hose for a sander? I have a DeWalt ROS that I bought at Lowe’s, as well as a shop vac from Lowe’s, but all I have is the hose that came with the shop vac, and sanding with that hose is a pain because of it’s stiffness, I basically have to hold the sander and hose when using it. I have been trying to find something like what I have seen Marc using with his Festool stuff, but haven’t really been able to find it. Any body find something that they are already using like what I have described? It’s gotta be out there somewhere.

    • Rick Roades May 7, 2012

      Woodcraft – and probably Rockler – have a hose just for power tools. I have a PC sander, and it fits it well. I still end up holding the hose, but it’s flexible and light.

    • Frank May 7, 2012

      Frank, my suggestion would be to move in with Marc and Nicole and convince him to give you all his tools and then he can do a special series of podcasts on “starting from scratch: the beginning woodworker.” I think this would be best for, um, just yourself. Okay, I’ll try the boom thing, Vic, and I’ll also keep looking for flexible hoses from sources like Rockler. Since they just sent me their Professional Catalog for some reason maybe I’ll take advantage of the price difference.

    • Don Burch May 12, 2012

      The difficulty is getting a the strength required resist the forces of vacuum, flexibility and a reasonable price.
      I use a cheap 2 1/2″ hose and I throw it over my shoulder when using my ROS. Otherwise I use my Flatmaster.

      Don

  15. Chuck Mielkie May 5, 2012

    Marc, knowing that you didn’t have any flow meters attached, did you notice any significant reduction in the amount of suction from yuour vacuum when using any of the three units? If no noticeable difference between the three, is there a guess-timate of how much suction is lost when using a unit like this (i.e. 75%, 50%, etc)?

  16. I think you should make another video about different types of dust collector. Like canister vs bag, two stage cyclone dust collector vs regular types. How much HP do you need?etc…

  17. wow. loads of comments here.
    interesting review and resuts Marc.
    I have a cv06 and have to say I am really impressed with it and havnt yet had a collapse. perhaps you have more suck?
    anyway I have a second on the way to go with another more powerful dust unit and will share any issues I have with it on that one.
    one question though, perhaps Bill can answer. it comes with two buckets but only one seems to fit the lid. or am I missing something?
    cc

  18. d0od May 5, 2012

    Thanks for the great review! I have been thinking about getting a separator and your review has sealed the deal.

  19. Jarrid May 4, 2012

    Great review!! Look forward to seeing more things like this(if the bad apples don’t ruin the pie)!

  20. Matt May 4, 2012

    Marc thank you for a great tool review, and I agree with you that the DD is the best bang for the buck! I owned the Mini CV06 and had the same issue with the bucket caving in on itself. I also was disapponted that they chose to use shotty nylon hardware, is it really that expensive to use real metal bolts? After about a month of use (and cussing at the separator) I tossed it in the bonfire and bought the DD, which I should’ve bought in the first place. Since having the DD I have noticed that it collects more dust then the MiniCV06. My only downside to the DD is that it can be knocked over easily. Although in my shop the DD stays in one place and isn’t in the way, and I have yet to knock it over. Thanks again for the review Marc, keep ‘em coming!

  21. Keith (http://Nada) May 4, 2012

    Thanks for the review Mark. I’ve been meaning to pull the trigger on the Clearvue for a few months. This is a very timely video for me. I had wanted to buy the orignal clearvue mini, but didn’t get one before Oneida threatened Clearvue with legal action and shut down production claiming patent infringement. I am no lawyer, but I think it was distasteful of them to do so. I also don’t know the merits of their claim, but it seemed odd given the cyclone plans had been available free on the internet long before Oneida began production. It doesn’t seem right to claim a patent on something that is already in the public domain. I will not purchase Oneida products based on this.
    I am curious how the new mini compares to the old mini. I not so secretly hope the new mini out performs the old one.
    Thanks for another great video.

    •  

      Yeah as a fan of ClearVue products, I was actually rooting for them to win. So I too was disappointed in the results. I try not to let the legal issues affect my opinion as I don’t really know the details of the case and what actually went down. But it does make me wonder…..

    • Ted May 9, 2012

      Keith, I just installed the new Clear-vue mini on my CT22 about two weeks ago. I am ready to empty the bucket for the second time. I will check the bag and filters in CT and post how its working.

      I still have my old mini on another vac and it is still working as it did the day I purchased it years ago…

  22. Hey guys. I built a cart to roll my dust deputy around with my shop vac. One thing to keep an eye on, at least with mine, the top can come off. Not sure if I just got one that wasn’t glued very well or not. I used a bead of gorilla glue all the way around to reseal it to the funnel. The cart was in an issue of Shop Notes, which is where I first heard of the dust deputy. Here’s a shot of it all together.

    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QriXgEUqYpQ/TFBi-76ZvQI/AAAAAAAAA4g/S9Q3dkFs9gg/s1152/IMG_20100725_204001.jpg

  23. tom May 4, 2012

    my boss bought the all metal dust deputy, it seems to get all of the dust and the clamping ring to hold the lid on the bucket is easy to use, since it is metal it is heavier so sitting on the floor was no problem using a long hose, i do want to set it up attached to the vac as one unit for added convenience, thanks for the video

  24. Fred May 4, 2012

    Thank you for this and thanks for mentioning the lid on the Oneida Dust Deputy. I’ve owned one of these for over a year now and have been really impressed except for the lid.

    The biggest disappointment for me was Oneida’s “customer service”. Within a few weeks of owning this I noticed a couple of cracks forming on the lid of the unit. I called and asked about it. The technician immediately blamed me for it and all but hung up on me.

    It’s sad too because I have several woodworking friends that I would have otherwise recommended the Dust Deputy to.

  25. Marc,
    My dust Deputy work very well. I have had it for a a few months and is awesome. I dont get any dust in my Shop vac at all.

  26. Mike May 4, 2012

    I have the Rockler dust vortex hooked up to my Ridgid Shop Vac, it works pretty well. The one thing I do notice a lot though is that it tips over pretty easily on me as I’m rolling it around my shop. I’d really prefer a longer, more flexible hose than the one that comes with it for connecting to the shop vac – that would allow the vortex to roll along with me rather than tug the shop vac close behind it which contributes to it falling over a lot (as the two get tangled up around a bench or table). Other than that it works great, I hardly ever change out my shop vac bag now and I’ve yet to have to replace the motor filter.

  27. J R Rightmire May 4, 2012

    Rockler price shows as $79.99, not 89. Also FIX YOUR CLOCK

    •  

      Why would I fix my clock when I get so much enjoyment out of driving people insane?
      And it appears that Rockler lowered their price just after my review was published, haha. Now it is the exact same price as the Dust Deputy….hmmm…..

      • Rick Roades May 4, 2012

        I pointed out the clock to my wife, and told her that it’s been at a different time in different videos, she looked at me puzzled.

      • Mark Drogos May 7, 2012

        Well with clock not working, it’s a guaranteed way to make sure all projects are finished on time! :)

  28. Mark Gorton May 4, 2012

    Hi. Thanks for the review. I am considering the Clear-vue unit. Can you tell me more about the WWper discount of the Clear-vue unit for $99.00 .

  29. Christopher Stahl May 4, 2012

    I’ve also been using a Dust Deputy for about 6 months, just wouldn’t be without it now. However, I also had the problem where top came off the top of the cone about a month or two after I bought it. Not the end of the world, but an inconvenience. Tried epoxy and it still pops off.

  30. Rick Roades May 4, 2012

    Great job, Marc. I have the Vortex, and while I think it’s good with chips, I agree that when sanding or other fine dust use, it just doesn’t seem to get as much as I’d expect in the container. Because of the way it’s configured, and watching it as the shop vac runs, it spins the shavings so high that I’ve wondered if some of it is being picked up by the shop vac inlet. I’ve only emptied my shop vac bag once since getting it. However, I used to use the bucket lid from Woodcraft, and had 2 5-gallon buckets mounted together, with the lid and bottom cut out to make a 10-gallon container. That seems to have worked as well as to the amount of stuff going into the bag. But because the heavier stuff had farther to fall from the hose to the vac – and that the vac inlet didn’t have a 90 elbow on it like the vortex does, I think it allowed the dust to fall without being picked back up by the hose to the vac. But the bottom bucket (a Home Depot orange bucket) collapsed like yours on the Mini.

    All that to say, I’ve been disappointed some in the vortex. But also have a question:

    Did you do the same clean out before each of the tests? If not, I know the answer to “could that have any play in the results – did more get trapped in filters on the first test, and then on subsequent tests did it fall back into the container?” is “I suppose that could have been a variable”. So just curious.

    •  

      After each test, the vacuum compartment was cleaned and the pleated filter was vacuumed. All tests had the same starting point. Also, Festool vacs have a built-in paddle that you can use to agitate the filter pleats and knock any dust down. I used that feature after every test to make sure any accumulated dust was “counted”. So while this test wasn’t exactly scientific, I can say with 100% confidence that the level of dust accumulation was the direct result of the properties of each cyclone. Now that doesn’t mean the results might not be different when using a different vac setup and different tools. But with my particular setup, the results are what they are.

  31. As usual Mark, a great video. It seems that every time I’m in the market for a product you come up with a review. Last time is was a hvlp sprayer and you were right on. Thanks for all the great information. Really love your site.

  32. Joe May 4, 2012

    Thanks, Marc. I am also very surprised at your results in regards to the Clearvue product. I recently saw the Mini CV06 in action at a woodworkers show and the results there were very different from what you experienced. There was absolutely no dust in the vac after the demo and the bucket seemed very heavy duty. I’m wondering if you had a leak somewhere, perhaps the lid was not screwed on tight? Unfortunately, I haven’t seen a Dust Deputy or the Dust Right Vortex in person, just videos. With today’s digital marketing, I trust reviews such as this one to give me trustworthy information. After seeing the Clearvue product for myself, I think you should test it again.

    •  

      There are certainly many variable at play here, including the size/power of the vacuum as well as the type of dust being generated. I’m sure that all plays a role in how much dust reaches the vac itself. And I too thought the bucket was very heavy duty….until I saw it collapse. :) And although you didn’t see it in the video, each test was done twice. So testing again would only produce the same results. It is what it is. :)

      • Marc,

        As many know I engineered the cyclones that Clear Vue sells, as well as the cyclones and cyclone plans that five other small shop vendors sell. I would like to talk with you directly as I think there are some other things that you should consider adding to this review. Would you please email me directly and let me know a number and time that would be a good time to call? Thank you.

        Bill Pentz

    • Nate May 4, 2012

      Joe, if it were true that he “had a leak somewhere” or that the lid wasn’t “screwed on tight”, the bucket would be *less* likely to collapse, as the pressure differential wouldn’t have been as significant.

      Also, I should let you know – you kinda sound like a crafty corporate shill… :)

      • Joe May 14, 2012

        Nate – if I were a crafty corporate shill, I would probably be more educated on this whole dust collection thing. I was merely stating what I saw at a woodworking show.

  33. Shamuss May 2, 2012

    OTOH, the Shop Fox cyclone lid I bought for $20 plus a $20 garbage can works fantastically for tools with 4′ ports. The only time I ever have to change the bag on my DC is when I let the can get a little too full and chips go into the bottom bag.

  34. fransikaner May 2, 2012

    I second that, Shamus. The DD is an incredibly awkward system without weights. I have tipped it over several times and had the contents sucked into the vacuum.

  35. Lane May 2, 2012

    I would have to agree that Oneida is pretty impressive. I have the super dust deputy which basically converts my 2 stage collector into a cyclone. The amount of dust that gets past the super dust deputy is not really even measurable. It’s a lot more expensive than the smaller dust deputy but way worth it in my opinion. BTW, I too was looking at the clock… :)

  36. Shamuss May 2, 2012

    I’ve had a dust deputy for years, and while it performs extraordinarily well I don’t think I can recommend it in standalone bucket configuration. Sitting it on the floor is just a disaster… if it doesn’t tip over, the lid comes off. I’ve mitigated for former by putting twenty pounds of weights in the bottom of the bucket, but that just makes lid separation a bigger problem. If you’re going to buy one of these, plan on making it stationary in some way.

    • Greg F May 4, 2012

      I have been very pleased with the performance of my Dust Deputy but also agree with Shamuss with regard to it easily tipping over. It definitely needs to be mounted to something. In Oneida’s defense, mounting it is recommended in the literature accompanying the product.
      Another great video Marc.

      • Richard Wile May 4, 2012

        I have added one of my son’s weights (10 lbs) to the bottom of the bucket to weigh it down – works great!

  37. Great review Marc.

    Clear and concise…I think a few of the other product review/shoot outs that occur in our industry are so focused on how they do the measurements that they miss the bigger picture of just which item truly works the best.

    I know where I’m spending my dollars in the future.

  38. Ted May 2, 2012

    I purchased my first Clear-vue mini about 6 years ago for my CT-22 in my shop. I just use a simple 5 gallon bucket siting on top of the CT in a systainer. I have yet to change the paper bag in the CT, and I have emptied the bucket alot. I would say I empty the bucket once a month or so. I check the paper bag from time to time in the CT, but just a small amount of fines are there.

    I did just purchase a new mini unit from Clear-vue with WWper discount and paid $99.00. I am using this unit with the bucket they provided, since the screw on top is simple to use. I did change the paper bag when I hooked up the new mini. I have not seen the bucket collapsing that Marc saw with his. So far so good.

    I would not hesitate to purchase from Clear-vue again…

  39. jHop May 2, 2012

    Thanks for the “quick and dirty” process. I’m grateful for the information, and the process (and explanations) involved.

  40. Mike May 2, 2012

    Someone beat me to it. Your wall clock not working was distracting me. Also, you said “cobble” a lot, lol.

    Great review, glad to see the site is back up.

  41. MikeD May 2, 2012

    I have had my Dust Deputy Kit for about 6 or 8 months now. I really like the performance I get as well as not having to unclog the shop vac filter every time. Like Lloyd, the top part of the cyclone came off. I used some epoxy to secure it back on. So far it has held firm. I built a custom cart like this one: http://lumberjocks.com/projects/33590.

  42. Kevin Doyle May 2, 2012

    Good job with this testing. I have the Dust Deputy and I like almost everything about it. The only problem is with the connection between the bucket top and the cyclone. I stiffened mine with a plywood disc in the inside. I recently had to relay floor tiles that were over cement backer. The weak thin-set had to be scraped then sanded off with an orbital and coarse paper. The cyclone picked up four buckets of debris from that kitchen; and I had to clean the shop vac filter when I dumped each full bucket, but the air stayed pretty clean. It was amazing. Without the Dust Deputy, I would have had to clean the filter every 10 minutes.

  43. First, Thanks Marc for the very thorough reivew and for selecting our Dust Deputy as your winner. We’re honored. You’ve shown a lot of the reasons why the Dust Deputy is such a remarkable product.

    Lloyd, contact us and we will get your cyclone replaced under warranty. No Oneida product should fail within a month…we can’t have that.

    -Jeff
    Oneida Air Systems

  44. I’ve had the dust deputy for a year now and it separates very well with my shopvac. I’ve maybe built up an inch worth of dust in the shopvac over the last year, but emptied full dust deputy buckets at least 7 or 8 times. I did bolt it onto the side of mine without casters, and it tends to tip the whole the over with little effort. The lid stays on just fine, but it is very flimsy and mine has taken some permanent deformation due to the way the hose between it and the shopvac pulls on it. My biggest dissapointment is that the top part of the cyclone came completely off within a month of having it. The plastic welds failed and it just popped off. I never bothered calling in a warranty claim on it. I tried CA and that didn’t hold, so i just ended up duct taping it back together. That has since failed as well, so I may have too look at hot glue or redoing the plastic weld myself.

    • WOW! Talk about customer service. Oneida just went through the trouble of getting my number off my website and calling me to send me a new replacement cyclone. Apparently they changed the design at the end of last year to fix the issue I had. Give these guys another +1000 for customer service and pride in their product! Jeff/Robert, thank you for going the extra mile for me. You’ve got a loyal customer from now on!

      • Mark H July 26, 2012

        Wow, Lloyd! That’s awesome– thanks for sharing about the outstanding customer service you received from Oneida. That plus their top quality product will definitely be a high hurdle to overcome for the others when I’m ready to get a separator.

  45. Very comprehensive review Marc. I would’ve actually guessed the Oneida had the best performance based on the cyclone configuration of the lid. It’s how your full-sized clearvue is built. I am shocked at the Clearvue mini collapsing. Based on my many years in plastic injection molding, it’s unlikely it’s just your unit. They’ll all collapse like that. When I have to buy bags for my Festool CT, I’m definitely going take a closer look at the Oneida.

    If you’re listening Oneida; count me as 1 vote for a twist on lid…even at a slight premium. Thanks for doing this shootout Marc. Very helpful.

    @Tooltutor

  46. Will May 2, 2012

    *adds dust deputy to cart*
    p.s. Thanks Marc!

  47. Mark May 2, 2012

    Great review, thanks.
    BTW: it’s time to change the batteries in your wall clock..

  48. Cosmin May 2, 2012

    Hi Marc,

    My Vortex has a snap on lid. It does the job just fine. Thanks for the informative vid!

    cheers,
    Cosmin

  49. David May 2, 2012

    It was mentioned but I think it should be emphasized that the dust deputy can be purchases as just the cyclone unit for $40. This allows you to use whatever bucket or container you want as well as whatever connections you want. I use a $2 home depot bucket with a plywood ring inside to prevent bucket collapses myself.

  50. fransikaner May 2, 2012

    Great review, Marc

    I can’t help but wonder wow the bucket failure on the Clear Vue contributed to the dust passed to the Festool.

    You have stood on a needle and lived to tell the tale. Thanks for such a comprehensive review.

    • Jim Ligon May 18, 2012

      Hi,
      two thoughts a reasonable person could believe.

      The inlet vane on the mini reduced the static to allow addition suction contributing to the bucket failure.

      I’m thinking the bucket failure contributed to the “pass through”. I don’t get that on mine.

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