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		<title>Stop Tearout in Plywood</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article was inspired by a question from Steve.  He writes: </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/splintered_plywood.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-12984];player=img;"><img src="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/splintered_plywood-135x150.jpg" alt="" title="splintered_plywood" width="135" height="150" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-17319" /></a>I have recently embarked on building bookcases and I have run into an issue.  I decided to use a cabinet grade birch plywood that I picked up from the hardwood dealer here in Dallas.  Everything was fine until I started the cross-cuts and experienced tearout on the top layer of the plywood face.  I stopped this by doing all my cuts with a skill saw and plywood blade.  But when cutting the dados, I still got quite a bit of tearout.  I like using this plywood because its inexpensive.  So my question is:  how do I stop tear out on plywood?</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/zero-clearance-insert.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-12984];player=img;"><img src="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/zero-clearance-insert-100x100.jpg" alt="" title="zero-clearance-insert" width="100" height="100" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-17316" /></a>There are few key things that you can do to prevent tearout in plywood.  First, use a zero clearance insert on your tablesaw.  A zero clearance insert fully supports the wood fibers right at the cut line, which will dramatically improve your cut quality.  You can buy insert blanks specifically made for your saw, or you can just <a target="blank" href="http://www.rockler.com/articles/display_article.cfm?story_id=155">make your own</a> from plywood or MDF.</p>
<p><a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FXY38M?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000FXY38M"><img src="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/tenryu_blade-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="tenryu_blade" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-17317" /></a>The second thing you can do is use a high quality, high tooth count blade.  I generally use a <a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000223VQ?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0000223VQ">40 tooth Forrest Woodworker II</a> or a <a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FXY38M?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000FXY38M">Tenryu 40-tooth Gold Medal blade</a>, and that works just fine.  But if you are still getting tearout, you might try a blade with 60-80 teeth, such as <a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007WKBEQ?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0007WKBEQ">this one from Freud</a>.  More teeth equates to a smoother cut and less tearout.  You&#8217;ll also notice a key element of that particular blade is the Hi ATB (alternating bevel).  This means that the teeth on the blade are milled at a high angle for more effective scoring of the plywood, thereby creating less tearout.  </p>
<p>Now for the dado blade, it just comes down to sharpness and the properties of your particular dado stack.  Some of the more budget-friendly dado sets will give you tearout no matter what you do.   <a href="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/images/2010/01/freud.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-12984];player=img;"><img src="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/images/2010/01/freud-100x100.jpg" alt="" title="freud" width="100" height="100" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-12990" /></a>But the higher quality dado sets will produce tear out free cuts until they start to become dull, at which point you&#8217;ll send them out for sharpening.  I use the <a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000223VZ?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0000223VZ">Forrest Dado King</a>, which I picked up used about 6 years ago.  But before that, I used <a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000223O8?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=thewoodwhispe-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B0000223O8">this Freud dado set</a> with great results.  In fact, I still think this Freud set is the best balance of price and performance.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/bluetape.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-12984];player=img;"><img src="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/bluetape-100x100.jpg" alt="" title="bluetape" width="100" height="100" class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-17328" /></a>Another thing you can  do to prevent tearout involves our old friend blue tape.  Just run a strip of blue masking tape along the cut line on the side that you anticipate tear out.  The tape helps to hold the fibers in place during the cut, and usually the result is a clean crisp line.  But with a zero clearance insert and a high quality blade, this step is usually unnecessary.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/scoringcut.jpg" rel="shadowbox[sbpost-12984];player=img;"><img src="http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/wp-content/uploads/scoringcut-150x139.jpg" alt="" title="scoringcut" width="150" height="139" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-17330" /></a>And the final thing you might try is making a scoring cut (image borrowed from <a target="blank" href="http://americanwoodworker.com/blogs/tips/archive/2009/09/09/shallow-cut-eliminates-tear-out.aspx">American Woodworker</a>).  If you raise the blade about 1/32&#8243; and make a very light initial pass, that will usually cleanly sever the fibers on the face of the plywood.  That way, you can make a second pass with the blade extended and you&#8217;ll end up with a tearout free cut.  A number of larger saws out there are actually outfitted with a second blade that lives in front of the main blade, and its sole purpose is to make this type of scoring cut.</p>
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		<title>How to Avoid Tear-Out?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This week&#8217;s question comes from Don who writes: &#8220;Just discovered the Wood Whisperer and your site and videos are great. Besides we&#8217;re neighbors. I have a small shop in Las Vegas and we make Adirondack furniture from Western Red Cedar. My question is this. I round over all parts on a router table using a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week&#8217;s question comes from Don who writes:  &#8220;Just discovered the Wood Whisperer and your site and videos are great. Besides we&rsquo;re neighbors. I have a small shop in Las Vegas and we make Adirondack furniture from Western Red Cedar. My question is this. I round over all parts on a router table using a 3/8&rsquo;s round over bit. I get a lot of tear out during this process. I read the grain but when you flip over the part to do the other side you are going against the grain. I always use a good sharp bit and I have played with feed rates. It seems no matter what I try I still get a lot of tear out. I have ruined a lot of wood. Others have suggested using a Ã?Â¼ inch bit but it doesn&rsquo;t give me the profile I want. Any advice would be appreciated.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this was my response:  &#8220;Hey Don.  Glad you found us!  Welcome.  So what brand bit are you using?  Obviously, using a top quality bit is the first step to great results.  The second would be to take lighter passes.  Don&#8217;t bring the bit all the way up.  It will take a little longer, but try taking 3-4 passes, raising the bit a little each time.  Obviously that&#8217;s not an efficient solution, but its much better than losing a whole chair arm because of tear out.  Also, you could relieve the sharp corners with a rasp before routing which can sometimes relive tear out.  But honestly, the incremental passes is probably your best bet.  Whenever I am dealing with a tear out prone wood, that&#8217;s exactly what I do. Hope that helps.&#8221;</p>
<p>In a follow up e-mail Don writes: &#8220;Marc, I tried your suggestion about taking lighter passes and IT WORKED. I take 3 passes and after about 30 or 40 pieces I only lost 4 due to tear-out  Thanks so much. You saved me tons of wood not to mention money. Thanks again!&#8221;<br />
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